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India IT outsourcing groups struggle to woo China

May 22nd, 2013
heource:http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/288edde6-c210-11e2-8992-00144feab7de.html#axzz2TzQTuHi7

Having arrived in India’s financial capital of Mumbai on Tuesday, Chinese premier Li Keqiang was whisked from the airport to visit Tata Consultancy Services, the country’s largest IT developer by revenues. But a software campus tour designed to showcase high-tech wizardry in one of the country’s most celebrated export industries also brought attention to a less welcome fact: the limited successes of India’s outsourcers in China itself.

TCS was the first of the major Indian groups to set up a Chinese division, following a deal with Microsoft back in 2002. It remains the country’s largest entrant too, with a staff of roughly 3,000.

Others including Bangalore-based Infosys and Wipro have also opened operations, although progress is slow: Infosys earned revenues of just Rs5.7bn ($103m) in China during the last financial year, a tiny fraction of its global total.

Most of this limited business tends to come from servicing existing western clients that have Chinese operations.

Selling to Chinese companies, which often means winning over China’s government too, has proved tougher, says Siddharth Pai, Asia-Pacific president of research group ISG – although for economic rather than political reasons.

“The basic proposition that I can do this job for less if I move it to India often just doesn’t work in China, because Chinese costs are more or less on par with India for IT services,” Mr Pai says.

The Indian IT groups keep trying nonetheless, viewing Chinese growth as part of a wider push into emerging economies, as they try to diversify away from slower-growing markets in Europe and America.

N. Chandrasekaran, TCS chief executive, remains hopeful too, telling the Financial Times in an interview last year that he hoped to increase his headcount quickly in the country. But China was hard going even so, he admitted: “It has been much tougher than we thought.”

Source:http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/288edde6-c210-11e2-8992-00144feab7de.html#axzz2TzQTuHi7

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China still safe for IT outsourcing, despite US security concerns, says vendor

May 15th, 2013

China’s reputation for security may have been marred by recent U.S. accusations of state-sponsored hacking but the nation is still a safe place as a tech subcontractor for foreign businesses, according to one of China’s largest IT outsourcing vendors.

“We take security as a ‘live or die’ thing,” said Jun Su, corporate executive vice president for Pactera Technology in an interview. “We are a public company. If we ever got exposed for leaking IP, we are dead.”Outsourcing10

Keeping a company’s intellectual property secure in China has long been a challenge facing foreign businesses operating in a country known for piracy. But the concerns around security have heightened in recent months, as the U.S. has grown increasingly vocal about alleged Chinese cyber-espionage that has sought to steal sensitive data from the U.S. military and corporations.

Certain Chinese tech companies, most notably, Huawei Technologies and ZTE, two major providers of telecommunication gear, have been caught in the crossfire. Last October, a U.S. congressional committee accused the two companies of having links to the Chinese government, and advised that U.S. businesses looks elsewhere for their networking equipment purchases.

But the mounting security concerns also represent a potential threat to Pactera and other China-based technology outsourcing vendors, which take the bulk of their clients from overseas. In Pactera’s case, about 43 percent of its 2012 revenue came from U.S.-based customers, with another 23 percent from Europe and Japan-based clients.

Both the U.S. and Australian press have circulated stories about China’s alleged links to cyber-espionage, and the country’s reputation for security has never been its strong suit, Su said. But the accusations shouldn’t spill over into China’s outsourcing industry, where strict standards on security are maintained, he said. For example, China’s former premier Wen Jiabao made a visit to a company facility in 2011 as part of local government tour. But the premier was later barred from entering a lab because he lacked the security clearance.

“Security is the number one thing we definitely have to do,” he said. Pactera has never lost a client because of security problems, according to Su, and the company has offices across the world, including in the U.S. and Europe, to accommodate its customers. “We have to protect the IP,” he said.

Pactera formed out of the merger last year of two Chinese outsourcing vendors, HiSoft and VanceInfo, which have histories stretching back almost 20 years ago. Pactera declined to name its key clients, but before the merger HiSoft and VanceInfo were known to count Microsoft, IBM and General Electric as some of their customers.

“These Chinese outsourcing companies have been around for 10, 15 years or more,” said Tina Tang, an analyst with research firm Gartner. “They’ve been following the Western companies’ standards, so I don’t think security would be a problem.”

China’s outsourcing vendors, however, still lag behind their Indian counterparts in terms of scale. One of India’s largest vendors, Infosys, has over 150,000 employees, with an annual revenue at US$7.4 billion. Pactera, in comparison, has only over 23,000 workers, and an annual revenue at US$360 million. In addition, the country’s outsourcing vendors are facing China’s rising labor costs, along with a depreciating U.S. currency.

It’s why the Chinese companies such as Pactera want to wean themselves from low-cost outsourcing, and move toward developing their own more profitable enterprise services and products for customers. Currently, it receives about 70 percent of its revenue from outsourcing, with the rest coming from consulting and products.

“If we can become successful, I think we can definitely become a leading service provider in China,” Su said. “That will be the challenge for the next two or three years.”

Source:http://www.pcworld.com/article/2038703/china-still-safe-for-it-outsourcing-despite-us-security-concerns-says-vendor.html

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China IT outsourcing to be ‘next India’

May 3rd, 2013

China is gunning for India’s IT outsourcing crown, and it will be reliant on the sheer number of its IT talent and strong economic growth to overtake its fellow Asian giant.

That said, there are still lessons Chinese outsourcing providers can learn from their Indian counterparts and, ultimately, businesses will choose their outsourcing partners according to bottomline considerations, said Liu Chu Tzer, executive vice president of Chinese outsourcing company Pactera.outsourcing26

In a recent interview with ZDNet Asia, Liu said China is the “new India” in terms of the IT capabilities available in the country. That, plus the fact that many companies are looking to make inroads into China or have links with the Asian economic powerhouse, means the country is well-positioned to be the alternative destination to India for businesses looking to portion off their IT requirements, he explained.

He pointed out that out of every 6 graduates produced by China’s universities, one of them would be suited for the IT industry and even though every market has a pool of skilled IT workers, they cannot compete on the economies of scale that China boasts.

This argument also applies to competition from other Southeast Asian competitors such as the Philippines and Indo-China, particularly Vietnam. Liu said the Philippines, for example, can carve a niche for themselves by offering BPO (business process outsourcing) services such as operating call centers and data management-related functions.

However, it will not be able to offer thousand-man development teams to companies in the manner that Chinese outsourcing firms are able to, he pointed.

Similarly for Vietnam, it can appeal to companies looking for nearshoring options given that it has strengths in software coding and development, the executive said.

“But in terms of economies of quality, will they have enough to go around [for big-scale IT projects]?” Liu questioned.

Adapting to market forces
Asked if Pactera is facing similar global market challenges that its Indian counterparts like Infosys are facing, such as the tightening of visas for Indian IT professionals brought into the United States to work, Liu said these are part and parcel of the outsourcing business.

“Outsourcing is here to stay…and take away the political statements, companies will still make decisions based on their bottomlines.”

- Liu Chu Tzer, executive vice president, Pactera
He noted that such rules, should they come into effect, will affect everyone and not just specific Indian outsourcing companies or Chinese ones.

For example, the ongoing overhaul of U.S. immigration law will close loopholes that allow outsourcing companies, Indian and American, to pay guest workers in the U.S. at rates often below wages for equivalently-skilled Americans. Indian outsourcing companies will be hard hit though, given that they use more than one-third of the 65,000 high-skill visas, or H-1B, allowed under U.S. regulations, according to an earlier report.

“Outsourcing is here to stay…and take away the political statements, companies will still make decisions based on their bottomlines,” Liu stated.

Pactera was formed on August 10, 2012, in a merger of equals between two Chinese IT companies hiSoft Technology and VanceInfo Technologies. Headquartered in China, it has offices in Singapore, Malaysia, Japan, Australia, Europe and the U.S.

In terms of its business performance in 2012, the Nasdaq-listed company reported net revenues of US$359 million in February this year. Greater China accounted for 48 percent of the full-year revenues, while the United States contributed 21 percent, and Japan, Asia South and Europe generated 16.7 percent, 12.6 percent and 1.7 percent, respectively.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/cn/china-it-outsourcing-to-be-next-india-7000014821/

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iSoftStone and IBM Officially Launched Cloud Service Platform for SMEs in Northwest China

May 3rd, 2013

iSoftStone Holdings Limited (”iSoftStone,” NYSE: ISS), a leading China-based IT services and solutions provider, and International Business Machines (”IBM”), the largest IT and business solutions provider today announced a collaboration to build www.xb-cloud.cn (”XB-CLOUD”), a Cloud Service Platform for Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises (”SMEs”) in Northwest China. The two companies, together with Industry and IT Committee of Gansu Province, Lanzhou Municipal Government, and China Mobile Gansu also recently officially established the Cloud Service Association for SMEs of Gansu Province. These initiatives aim at facilitating SMEs’ daily operations through efficient use of cloud computing and promote Lanzhou as a model of the Northwest China in using advance technology to drive industries’ growth.outsourcing22

The establishment of XB-CLOUD and Cloud Service Association for SMEs of Gansu Province is an extension of the Cloud Computing Service Center for SMEs in Northwest China co-launched by Lanzhou Municipal Government, China Mobile Gansu and IBM last year. The Cloud Computing Service Center has been built in China Mobile Gansu’s Xigu premises, and the initial phase of cloud computing services platform and application development are completed.

Contributing to the collaborative effects, iSoftStone will leverage its experience in cloud computing and smart city to provide support in the whole lifecycle management of XB-CLOUD including infrastructure and application development, deployment and operation, while IBM will provide its excellent consultation services and hardware facilities and products. XB-CLOUD currently provides a wide range of services that meet SMEs’ every aspect of needs including communication services, coordinated office management, production management and sales management, etc.

The Chinese government attached great importance on the development of cloud computing, and listed it as a strategic and emerging industry in its 12th Five-Year Plan. The output value of China’s cloud computing industry chain is expected to reach RMB200 billion by 2016. SMEs will benefit enormously from utilizing cloud computing to save cost and enhance efficiency in IT infrastructure set-up, to facilitate scalable application and information sharing, and to be equipped with various software application services to meet specific needs at different stages of their business development.

In the opening ceremony, Niu Xiangdong, Vice Mayor of Lanzhou Municipal Government said, “After ten months’ of initial set-up, XB-CLOUD has been officially launched. This marks the completion and official introduction of the first cloud computing project in Northwest China. Without the joint efforts and coordination of China Mobile Gansu, IBM and iSoftStone, this can never be achieved.” Niu spoke highly of the quick launch and introduction of the platform.

Kang Yanwen, Executive Vice-President of iSoftStone said, “A hundred years ago, the Yellow River Bridge connected both sides of the Yellow River. Today, IT is the bridge connecting SMEs and their informatization developments. iSoftStone is truly honored to be the builder and operator of XB-CLOUD. The successful launch of this platform marked a milestone in our company’s cloud computing development history and has also lead the industry by introducing a new and innovative payment model to integrate SMEs and mobile operators’ bill settlement platforms. iSoftStone will continue to be the operator of XB-CLOUD to help mobile operators to implement and promote cloud services among SMEs.”

Chen Gu, Chief Technology Officer of IBM Software Group in Greater China said, “Cloud computing is not just about integration and sharing of IT resources, but also a new business innovation model to create an ecological environment of economic development, helping all enterprises to utilize cloud computing to improve their business performance.”

Set up at the same time, the Cloud Service Association for SMEs of Gansu Province was initiated by Industry and IT Committee of Gansu Province, Lanzhou Municipal Government, China Mobile Gansu and IBM. As the deputy alliance member of the association, iSoftStone will assist in the promotion and implementation of cloud services. Other alliance members of the association consist of 10 universities including Lanzhou University and Northwest Normal University, China Mobile Gansu and other IT companies.

Source:http://www.marketwatch.com/story/isoftstone-and-ibm-officially-launched-cloud-service-platform-for-smes-in-northwest-china-2013-05-02

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Is it now crazy to offshore IT to China?

February 25th, 2013

China has for years been developing an IT outsourcing industry aimed at bringing in business from the U.S. and Europe. It has succeeded, but then again it hasn’t thrived and now may face more barriers.

China’s IT and business process outsourcing (BPO) market today is in the range of $4 billion to $5 billion.Outsourcing6

The total outsourcing revenue there is about half that generated by just one of India’s largest IT companies, Tata Consultancy Services, said Jimit Arora, a vice president at Everest Group, a consulting and research firm.

China’s IT service and BPO market is expected to grow annually by 20% to 25%, but that growth is off a small base, said Arora.

Ten years ago, there was wide expectation that China would emerge as India’s top threat in the IT services outsourcing business. Those expectations have been thwarted largely due to language issues and ongoing security concerns, say analysts.

China’s job building an IT and BPO outsourcing industry may have just gotten harder.

The blow-by-blow details of Chinese government espionage that arrived this week in a report by security firm Mandiant, lay bare, in ways never seen before, the extent of the security risks of working with China.

The Mandiant report draws a straight line to the Chinese military as a main instigator of cyberattacks on U.S. companies.

Meanwhile, the White House this week released a report with details on trade secret theft that makes numerous references to China, amplifying the extent of the problem.

Andy Sealock, a partner at consulting firm Pace Harmon, said the concerns about the security risks of outsourcing to China are already “priced into” and considered in the decision making process of U.S. companies. The latest revelations add more evidence to “what many people already assumed was happening,” he said.

A potential wild card is the U.S. response, if any, to the latest developments, analysts said.

“This onslaught of espionage targeting U.S. technologies is constant and unwavering,” said the White House in its report on mitigating the theft of U.S. trade secrets. Such attacks are increasing, concludes the White House.

Sealock said the U.S. may feel pressure “to make a public response to the threats and institute policies and sanctions that will make it more difficult to do business with China.”

Companies opposed to offshoring to China may now be less likely to change their minds. “This will just strengthen their resolve to stay away” from China, said Arora.

For those companies considering China for outsourcing work, the “task has just become a bit harder,” he said.

James Slaby, who directs the security practice at HFS Research, said companies aren’t necessarily more at risk in China.

The security risks may be marginally greater there if the telecommunications equipment has been compromised with backdoors. How attacks on the equipment are mounted, though, is geographically independent, said Slaby.

The bottom line is that companies offshoring to China are “only embracing nominally more risks” as long as they are pursuing best practices to protect corporate data, said Slaby.

Deploying basic security practices, “are more important than thinking about where you are physically located,” said Slaby.

Daniel Castro, an analyst at the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation, does not believe that “businesses will rethink their offshoring decisions because of the Mandiant report, but they should all be taking a close look at their risk exposure and mitigation measures for these types of threats.”

Source:http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237035/Is_it_now_crazy_to_offshore_IT_to_China_

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China hacking reveals outsourcing to private US firms in international cyberwar

February 21st, 2013

When Kevin Mandia, a retired military cybercrime investigator, decided to expose China as a primary threat to U.S. computer networks, he didn’t have to consult with American diplomats in Beijing or declassify tactics to safely reveal government secrets.
He pulled together a 76-page report based on seven years of his company’s work and produced the most detailed public account yet of how, he says, the Chinese government has been rummaging through the networks of major U.S. companies.
It wasn’t news to Mandia’s commercial competitors, or the federal government, that systematic attacks could be traced back to a nondescript office building outside Shanghai that he believes was run by the Chinese army. What was remarkable was that the extraordinary details — code names of hackers, one’s affection for Harry Potter and how they stole sensitive trade secrets and passwords — came from a private security company without the official backing of the U.S. military or intelligence agencies that are responsible for protecting the nation from a cyberattack.
The report, embraced by stakeholders in both government and industry, represented a notable alignment of interests in Washington: The Obama administration has pressed for new evidence of Chinese hacking that it can leverage in diplomatic talks — without revealing secrets about its own hacking investigations — and Mandiant makes headlines with its sensational revelations.
The report also shows the balance of power in America’s cyberwar has shifted into the hands of the $30 billion-a-year computer security industry.
“We probably kicked the hornet’s nest,” Mandia, 42, said in an interview at the Alexandria, Va., headquarters of Mandiant. But “tolerance is just dwindling. People are tired of the status quo of being hacked with impunity, where there’s no risk or repercussion.”
ChinMandiant’s staff is stocked with retired intelligence and law enforcement agents who specialize in computer forensics and promise their clients confidentiality and control over the investigation. In turn, they get unfettered access to the crime scene and resources to fix the problem (Mandiant won’t say exactly how much it charges, but it’s estimated to average around $400 an hour).
The growing reliance on contractors like Mandiant has been compared to that enjoyed by the military and State Department contractor formerly known as Blackwater, which provided physical security to diplomats and other VIPs during the Iraq war. Officials inside and outside government say that’s not a bad thing; contractors can often act more quickly than the government and without as much red tape. There are also serious privacy concerns: Most U.S. citizens don’t want the government to access their bank accounts, for example, even if China is attacking their bank.

When Kevin Mandia, a retired military cybercrime investigator, decided to expose China as a primary threat to U.S. computer networks, he didn’t have to consult with American diplomats in Beijing or declassify tactics to safely reveal government secrets.

He pulled together a 76-page report based on seven years of his company’s work and produced the most detailed public account yet of how, he says, the Chinese government has been rummaging through the networks of major U.S. companies.

It wasn’t news to Mandia’s commercial competitors, or the federal government, that systematic attacks could be traced back to a nondescript office building outside Shanghai that he believes was run by the Chinese army. What was remarkable was that the extraordinary details — code names of hackers, one’s affection for Harry Potter and how they stole sensitive trade secrets and passwords — came from a private security company without the official backing of the U.S. military or intelligence agencies that are responsible for protecting the nation from a cyberattack.

The report, embraced by stakeholders in both government and industry, represented a notable alignment of interests in Washington: The Obama administration has pressed for new evidence of Chinese hacking that it can leverage in diplomatic talks — without revealing secrets about its own hacking investigations — and Mandiant makes headlines with its sensational revelations.

The report also shows the balance of power in America’s cyberwar has shifted into the hands of the $30 billion-a-year computer security industry.

“We probably kicked the hornet’s nest,” Mandia, 42, said in an interview at the Alexandria, Va., headquarters of Mandiant. But “tolerance is just dwindling. People are tired of the status quo of being hacked with impunity, where there’s no risk or repercussion.”

China has disputed Mandiant’s allegations.

Mandiant, which took in some $100 million in business last year — up 60 percent from the year before — is part of a lucrative and exploding market that goes beyond antivirus software and firewalls. These “digital forensics” outfits can tell a business whether its systems have been breached and — if the company pays extra — who attacked it.

Mandiant’s staff is stocked with retired intelligence and law enforcement agents who specialize in computer forensics and promise their clients confidentiality and control over the investigation. In turn, they get unfettered access to the crime scene and resources to fix the problem (Mandiant won’t say exactly how much it charges, but it’s estimated to average around $400 an hour).

The growing reliance on contractors like Mandiant has been compared to that enjoyed by the military and State Department contractor formerly known as Blackwater, which provided physical security to diplomats and other VIPs during the Iraq war. Officials inside and outside government say that’s not a bad thing; contractors can often act more quickly than the government and without as much red tape. There are also serious privacy concerns: Most U.S. citizens don’t want the government to access their bank accounts, for example, even if China is attacking their bank.

Source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/china-hacking-reveals-outsourcing-to-private-us-firms-in-international-cyberwar/2013/02/21/dc025790-7bfc-11e2-b147-36af0e207220_story.html

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China security outsourcing getting attractive

January 31st, 2013

Chinese security firms can potentially make good outsourcing partners as they have a high level of competence boosted by supportive government policies and a strong talent pool. However, the country will not be among the top choices among non-Asian vendors due to security-related fears.

According to Kevin der Arslanian, business analyst at China Market Research (CMR) Group, China has a large pool of IT talent, which pushes the quality of its IT industry upward. This is driven by heavy government investment in this sector, strong graduate programs, and a number of major online Chinese players such as Baidu, Tencent, and Alibaba.

With these efforts from governments and large Chinese companies, a powerful ecosystem, and strong culture is also achieved, he explained. This enables China to differentiate from other Asian competitors such as Vietnam and Indonesia, even though China’s labor cost is higher, the business analyst added.

China’s Internet ecosystem has also driven improvements in the IT security, der Arslanian added. The Chinese Internet is unsafe with viruses, Trojan horses, and in worst cases, keylogging orespionage software can be downloaded without users knowledge, he explained.

Within its pool of IT talent and supportive government policies, Chinese security firms also develop very strong security protocols, der Aslanian observed.

“This has driven all [Chinese] companies to increase their IT security and continuously seek better and safer IT processes,” he added.

In terms of IT security outsourcing to China, the demand is primarily from companies based in markets such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea, said John Tan, Greater China director of Spire Consulting and Research.

The similar cultures of doing business, along with lowered cost and time spent on managing IT security, prompts some companies to choose China over other Asian outsourcing hubs, he said.

In terms of wider outsourcing services, China is currently the world’s second-largest player, and Asia-Pacific is the strongest region for this, said Allen Lee, manager of Solidiance China.

“India and China together occupied almost 80 percent of the global service outsourcing business, both countries have invested significant amount of time and resource to cultivate the industry,” he said.

Source:http://www.zdnet.com/cn/china-security-outsourcing-getting-attractive-7000010601/

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